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		<title>By: Lon</title>
		<link>http://onelife.solarcrash.com/2006/11/21/mosaic-ottawa-blueprint/comment-page-1/#comment-577</link>
		<dc:creator>Lon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 16:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Marty, you must be talking about the synergy diagram that came out of origins... it's awesome hearing how you're implementing it... i do believe we need people of all types.. it's interesting how you've distributed it, and how the bulk of the people are in the causal area... which is probably how it should be...

with my diagram here... one one level it's about language... the language we use with those who are seeking would spring from these intrinsic desires of belong, believe, become...  with community, christ, and cause being the leadership language in meeting those needs... faith, love, and hope would be our PR language... to the city, to the community..

but on another level it's really about values and passions...  these are core values that we feel must always be present and growing.  the inner circle of the "B"'s are things we all need... faith, love, and hope in a sense is what I hope we can all contribute to others.  and as a community the reality is we all contribute in different ways... and there are blends such as passionaries, missionaries, and visionaries... it's important where people can see where they contribute best, without feeling bad/guilty about where they might not be serving... this diagram i hope would serve as a bigger picture, knowing that we're healthy and as a larger community expanding in the right ways...

but yes, i'm still working a lot of this out... mostly in my head, and in smaller experimental communities...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Marty, you must be talking about the synergy diagram that came out of origins&#8230; it&#8217;s awesome hearing how you&#8217;re implementing it&#8230; i do believe we need people of all types.. it&#8217;s interesting how you&#8217;ve distributed it, and how the bulk of the people are in the causal area&#8230; which is probably how it should be&#8230;</p>
<p>with my diagram here&#8230; one one level it&#8217;s about language&#8230; the language we use with those who are seeking would spring from these intrinsic desires of belong, believe, become&#8230;  with community, christ, and cause being the leadership language in meeting those needs&#8230; faith, love, and hope would be our PR language&#8230; to the city, to the community..</p>
<p>but on another level it&#8217;s really about values and passions&#8230;  these are core values that we feel must always be present and growing.  the inner circle of the &#8220;B&#8221;&#8217;s are things we all need&#8230; faith, love, and hope in a sense is what I hope we can all contribute to others.  and as a community the reality is we all contribute in different ways&#8230; and there are blends such as passionaries, missionaries, and visionaries&#8230; it&#8217;s important where people can see where they contribute best, without feeling bad/guilty about where they might not be serving&#8230; this diagram i hope would serve as a bigger picture, knowing that we&#8217;re healthy and as a larger community expanding in the right ways&#8230;</p>
<p>but yes, i&#8217;m still working a lot of this out&#8230; mostly in my head, and in smaller experimental communities&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: martyschmidt</title>
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		<dc:creator>martyschmidt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Jun 2007 15:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Lon,

I've been working on a leadership diagram that will give us some structure as well as give us some flexibility.  I am playing off the Catalyst, Corporate, and Causal type of leaders.  I am in the position of Catalyst, I hired someone to help with the Corporate and the mother church is also helping with this.  I have a worship guy who plays a big role in the Causal and I also have developed a Core Team of 25 people who will serve as our Causal leaders until we make some more permanent leaders.

With all of that being said I'm wondering about this believe, belong, become and how you tied it to faith, love, and hope.  Have you pondered anymore about these connections?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Lon,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been working on a leadership diagram that will give us some structure as well as give us some flexibility.  I am playing off the Catalyst, Corporate, and Causal type of leaders.  I am in the position of Catalyst, I hired someone to help with the Corporate and the mother church is also helping with this.  I have a worship guy who plays a big role in the Causal and I also have developed a Core Team of 25 people who will serve as our Causal leaders until we make some more permanent leaders.</p>
<p>With all of that being said I&#8217;m wondering about this believe, belong, become and how you tied it to faith, love, and hope.  Have you pondered anymore about these connections?</p>
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		<title>By: Lon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 29 Apr 2007 04:12:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Jason, thanks for visiting and commenting!  You're absolutely right, i was struggling with communicating sin and in a way that's how i began this.

So sins of disbelief, disharmony in relationships, and disservice to humanity could be another way of looking at it...

I wanted to get at the sin issue as not only our typical evil passions of the flesh perspective, but more broadly as even 'knowing the good we ought to do, and not doing it, being sin as well.  I wish I could figure a way to more clearly articulate it concisely in the diagram...

I also feel that all though broken, we're all made in the image of God... and at the core, we're not only sinful... and i figure believe, become, belong can be neutral terms to describe whether we're moving in a healthy direction at the core...?

hope that helps, i'm completely open for reflection and fine-tuning, your thoughts are always welcome!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Jason, thanks for visiting and commenting!  You&#8217;re absolutely right, i was struggling with communicating sin and in a way that&#8217;s how i began this.</p>
<p>So sins of disbelief, disharmony in relationships, and disservice to humanity could be another way of looking at it&#8230;</p>
<p>I wanted to get at the sin issue as not only our typical evil passions of the flesh perspective, but more broadly as even &#8216;knowing the good we ought to do, and not doing it, being sin as well.  I wish I could figure a way to more clearly articulate it concisely in the diagram&#8230;</p>
<p>I also feel that all though broken, we&#8217;re all made in the image of God&#8230; and at the core, we&#8217;re not only sinful&#8230; and i figure believe, become, belong can be neutral terms to describe whether we&#8217;re moving in a healthy direction at the core&#8230;?</p>
<p>hope that helps, i&#8217;m completely open for reflection and fine-tuning, your thoughts are always welcome!</p>
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		<title>By: Jason</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 27 Apr 2007 23:12:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like what you have there.  Really cool.  If I can add something, I'd just remind us that, from the Bible's perspective, there is always the sin issue.  For instance, your model states:
"At the core of every human being is the intrinsic desire to believe, belong, and become."
Sin will obviously lead us to believe the wrong things, belong to the wrong things, and become something other than Christ-like people.
I don't mean to sound pessimistic.  Sorry if I do, but I'm learning that the issue of sin, carnality, the flesh, etc., is a factor of life, of every life, for all of our lives.  How would the enemies of the Spirit be a part of the diagram?  Or should it?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like what you have there.  Really cool.  If I can add something, I&#8217;d just remind us that, from the Bible&#8217;s perspective, there is always the sin issue.  For instance, your model states:<br />
&#8220;At the core of every human being is the intrinsic desire to believe, belong, and become.&#8221;<br />
Sin will obviously lead us to believe the wrong things, belong to the wrong things, and become something other than Christ-like people.<br />
I don&#8217;t mean to sound pessimistic.  Sorry if I do, but I&#8217;m learning that the issue of sin, carnality, the flesh, etc., is a factor of life, of every life, for all of our lives.  How would the enemies of the Spirit be a part of the diagram?  Or should it?</p>
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		<title>By: Lon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 23:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Chad, thanks.  It's all church in the mind at the moment... people, partnerships, organizations, are all the really early stages still... got tips?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Chad, thanks.  It&#8217;s all church in the mind at the moment&#8230; people, partnerships, organizations, are all the really early stages still&#8230; got tips?</p>
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		<title>By: chad</title>
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		<dc:creator>chad</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jan 2007 15:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lon,

Just saw this post. Man...I think that's a good way to assimilate all the values together. Good luck with what you're doing.

Are you starting a church plant in Ottawa? How are things going for that? Are you teamed up with someone...denomination, organiztation, etc?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lon,</p>
<p>Just saw this post. Man&#8230;I think that&#8217;s a good way to assimilate all the values together. Good luck with what you&#8217;re doing.</p>
<p>Are you starting a church plant in Ottawa? How are things going for that? Are you teamed up with someone&#8230;denomination, organiztation, etc?</p>
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		<title>By: Lon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Nov 2006 14:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for dropping by and your email to me Mark.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for dropping by and your email to me Mark.</p>
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		<title>By: Mark Begemann</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mark Begemann</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Nov 2006 05:28:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i'm not a huge fan of relational diagrams/hierarchies because it seems impossible to visualize all of the different aspects of... well, anything.  when "everything" is included it tends to get very messy very quickly- like an entangled web or neural network.  that being said, this is one of the best i have ever seen.  i don't think i could improve on it without diluting the overall message.  it really is amazing and visionary.  thanks for the food for thought!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i&#8217;m not a huge fan of relational diagrams/hierarchies because it seems impossible to visualize all of the different aspects of&#8230; well, anything.  when &#8220;everything&#8221; is included it tends to get very messy very quickly- like an entangled web or neural network.  that being said, this is one of the best i have ever seen.  i don&#8217;t think i could improve on it without diluting the overall message.  it really is amazing and visionary.  thanks for the food for thought!</p>
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		<title>By: Lon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 22:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey guys, sorry to chime in late... busy day.  Yes Patrick, that's exactly what I was thinking.  But I can see how it can be confusing...

eBrian, good point.  some of it gets lost in the language when it's not all spelled out.  If anything to me, a church is a missional organization, otherwise it is self-serving and should cease to exist.

Everything moves outward missionally to impact the surrounding culture.  The extension that comes from the innate desire to become a person of significance -&#62; leads to participating in the ultimate mission, the cause of Christ, which is fueled by unique individual purpose and corporate mission, and is seen as hope to the world.

It sounds complex, but most of this to me is just 'internal language' to help understand things amongst leaders.  To the non-believing world I would always return to the core of believing, belonging, and becoming, and being known as a community of faith, hope, and love.

Sam, er Mad Max, you're right, i still might rework some of this.  some of the overlap can be confusing if it's not clearly defined.

My other challenge in the beginning was that I wanted to put God at the center of the whole thing... possibly from the Genesis 1 account being Creative, Communal, and maybe Celebrated?  but really God permeates this entire thing.  Lots to think about still... I just liked having a framework to build from...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey guys, sorry to chime in late&#8230; busy day.  Yes Patrick, that&#8217;s exactly what I was thinking.  But I can see how it can be confusing&#8230;</p>
<p>eBrian, good point.  some of it gets lost in the language when it&#8217;s not all spelled out.  If anything to me, a church is a missional organization, otherwise it is self-serving and should cease to exist.</p>
<p>Everything moves outward missionally to impact the surrounding culture.  The extension that comes from the innate desire to become a person of significance -&gt; leads to participating in the ultimate mission, the cause of Christ, which is fueled by unique individual purpose and corporate mission, and is seen as hope to the world.</p>
<p>It sounds complex, but most of this to me is just &#8216;internal language&#8217; to help understand things amongst leaders.  To the non-believing world I would always return to the core of believing, belonging, and becoming, and being known as a community of faith, hope, and love.</p>
<p>Sam, er Mad Max, you&#8217;re right, i still might rework some of this.  some of the overlap can be confusing if it&#8217;s not clearly defined.</p>
<p>My other challenge in the beginning was that I wanted to put God at the center of the whole thing&#8230; possibly from the Genesis 1 account being Creative, Communal, and maybe Celebrated?  but really God permeates this entire thing.  Lots to think about still&#8230; I just liked having a framework to build from&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Mad Max</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mad Max</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Nov 2006 19:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think you're right about it being a convergence of faith &#38; love, etc Patrick. I just was wondering whether the unity/diversity, humanity/divinity etc could also flow out into visionaries/passionaries/missionaries.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think you&#8217;re right about it being a convergence of faith &amp; love, etc Patrick. I just was wondering whether the unity/diversity, humanity/divinity etc could also flow out into visionaries/passionaries/missionaries.</p>
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